1. Moving from the Criminal Mischief video era to today:

So many things have changed. Yet I feel like I’m still doing the same thing. Its hard being in the position where you feel like you need to do certain tricks or ride a specific way even though you're not into it. I’ve gotten past that recently; just do what you want. I’ll go on a seven-day trip and get one clip, if I can't find anything I want to ride, I won't force it to get a clip. Part of the motivation you used to have to do something was that it would mean something; it would go in a video and be memorable. To me, that motivation is gone. People are doing the gnarliest shit ever, and no one talks about it for more than a day or two or until the next web video comes out, and you're lucky if anybody remembers it.

Carving opposite over a pool stair set for the first time, I get that same feeling as when I’ve done any of my gnarliest shit. That’s only the feeling I’m looking for; if I can get that from carving over the stairs then fuck it, I’m going to do that. I just strive for that feeling. "Modern" street doesn’t give me that feeling much anymore, unless I find a cool or unique set up. When I did the backwards predator, that was a different era for me. At that point it was, if I get this trick, I had a part; if I didn’t, I have to quit. I took a specific trip to Arizona to get that clip. I couldn’t get it, it was the last day, and that’s what I was thinking about. None of that shit matters now. If I can carve over stairs with a smile, that’s what that matters. Its been amazing to have the support of brands like Volume, Demolition and Lotek to support me throughout all the phases of my career.

2. When that point of no longer being a professional rider/ riding comes:

You know how many people I know who stopped being a professional rider, and never touch a bike again? That's seems insane to me. So you’re mid-twenties with no work history. Now I’m almost forty, an immigrant with no work history; no one is going to hire you. You get hurt a few times, and you question what you are doing it for. If all you’re going to do is end up with nothing, why don’t you do what’s fun?

I’ve come full-circle. You start at a fun level, and then as you graduate to a certain level, some of that gets lost along the way. I feel like I'm back to that position where it’s like, "Fuck it, it’ so fun, I just can't see myself ever not riding.” When the basis of what you’re doing is fun, it translates to the viewer; people have fun watching it.

3 .The spark for pool-riding passion:

After I hurt my knee, and I got to the point where I could pedal around again, but I could only ride in baby steps. I went to the skatepark and just carved around; I felt like it was stupid and I didn’t want to be there. I started to going to a local pool where the fence was cut open and I’d do laps in there. I wasn’t doing anything, but I felt like I was riding. At that point I couldn’t ride that hard, but I could go out and spend a day looking for something and carve. I’m out doing something. If you go to over the light at a skatepark, it’s lame. If you go over the light at some random pool in the middle of nowhere, it’s pretty cool.

4. The next chapter:

My blessing will be that I've never made a lot of money, so when I transition into normal life, there is a good chance I will be okay, which for many people it will be the opposite. It would be nice to live a life not worrying about how I’m going to pay all the bills, heath insurance, or mortgage; I can only hope that side of things only gets better. Everything is more fun now. All I want to do is ride cool shit. It’s gone back to the point where you’re working a shitty job, and all you can think about is riding.

5. The secret to bike riding longevity:

When Garrett Byrnes and I hiked up that hill to a pool on that trip earlier in the year, I’m like, “Fuck, this was what it was all about.” We left our bikes at the bottom, and I wished we brought them up. Even beforehand, we saw a photo. It’s a gated community, but I knew we can get in. I learned that from Rooftop. “That sign is for other people, not us.” My desires have changed broadly over the years. It comes down to the same passion.